DMT trip report: The Witch is flying

Date: Dec. 21, 2012

Place: Montreal, Canada

Dosage: unsure, about 1/3 of the 40mg dose I first planned

Setting: my room, with the most comfortable bed ever, tons of pillows, thick comforters, candles, incense, crystals around me and psy-trance playing.

I decided a while ago to have some DMT on this apocalyptic occasion. I took the glass pipe to my lips and bring the torch lighter close, inhaling a first small hit that made my head spin and showed me Native-type of figures but with a psychedelic and alien twist, pulsating with light and changing color every second. I decided to take another big hit right away, held it in my lungs for a few seconds then let the smoke go out while saying a loud "ewwwww" (the taste was horrible).

That's when I got out of it.

I felt swept away through my 3rd eye and crown chakra and flying I was. I couldn't describe in details the scene I was seeing, landscapes, cities and castles pulsating with light and colors so pure they were out of this world. I was flying across those dreamy landscapes, feeling rushed but it was fun, a bit like a roller-coaster ride. I remember clearly not being that surprised by what I was experiencing, at first I was like "This feels pretty much as usual". I practice astral journeying and sorcery for a long time, so those strange and inhuman realms felt quite familiar though I was experiencing them with my whole senses this time.

Then I faced a multidimensional being, looking a lot like the Native figures I saw earlier but more complex and sophisticated. This being was communicating with me, I could understand and respond to it. The being seemed to be very pleased by this "successful contact" and was oozing with pure happiness. It was so happy, it made me happy too. I felt so much awe and joy at a moment that I laughed out loud, and from then on was slowly dragged back into my body, which was feeling light, warm and relaxed. Before I left, the being gave me a few advices about some issues I'm going through at the moment and asked me to remember about him/her/it and what happened. I said thanks before going back to my old self slowly but surely. Since I still wasn't fully back in, I decided to remain on the bed for a few more minutes, relaxing, rolling over myself and stretching. I could get up about 30-40 minutes after taking the last hit, my head feeling still a bit "light".

It was definitely pleasant, I'm more than satisfied by the whole experience. But, in retrospect, my initial dosage (40mg) was way too much, glad I didn't do it all! I can't even imagine how over the top it would have been, too much is just too much. My estimated 12-15mg felt way fine, the experience was intense but I could handle it, didn't feel "crashed" or anything.

Substance info: 4-AcO-DMT

4-AcO-DMT is an uncommon synthetic psychedelic drug with a limited history of use. Its effects and duration are similar to those of psilocybin/psilocin, although it is sometimes described as "warmer" or "more euphoric" than psilocybin-containing mushrooms. It is probably metabolically converted into psilocin in the body, but there are also reasons to believe that 4-AcO-DMT might itself be active in the brain, producing effects that are distinct from psilocin. Data regarding its use and effects is limited.

Dose

A common oral dose of 4-AcO-DMT is between 10 and 25 mg. Several reports describe doses of 25-30 mg as very strong. Insuffalation appears to produce more potent effects with a more rapid onset. A smoked dose of 40 mg of fumurate was described as extremely weak, comparable to the effects of 5 mg oral.

Price

Not commonly available. In September 2010, Internet vendors listed 4-AcO-DMT at $200 to $350 per gram, significantly higher than a few years earlier.

Law

4-AcO-DMT is unscheduled and uncontrolled in the United States, making it technically legal to possess. Sales or possession could be prosecuted under the Analog Act, although we are not aware of this having occurred. We are not aware of any other country where it is specifically listed as illegal.

Chemistry

4-Acetoxy-N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (4-AcO-DMT) is a synthetic chemical in the tryptamine class. It is related structurally to DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, bufotenine, psilocybin, psilocin, and the neurotransmitter serotonin (5-HT).

History

4-AcO-DMT (psilacetin) and several other esters of psilocin were patented on January 16, 1963 by Sandoz Ltd. via Albert Hofmann & Franz Troxler. To this day, it remains a psychedelic with a limited history of use. It's a novel compound with relatively little availability on the research chemicals market. Since 2007, its use appears to primarily be confined to psychedelic connoisseurs.

Effects

Psilocybin, present in magic mushrooms, is metabolized into psilocin; a similar situation likely occurs with 4-AcO-DMT being metabolized into psilocin. The effects of 4-AcO-DMT are said to be very similar to the effects of psilocybin/psilocin, although enough users have reported some differences that it is speculated that 4-AcO-DMT may be uniquely active on its own, and not simply active due to (probably) being metabolized into psilocin. Users report dose-dependent colorful visual effects and a sense of physical energy or euphoria, sometimes accompanied by abstract, associative, "trippy" thought patterns, or derealization.Visuals have been described as being similar to those produced by psilocybin/psilocin, 2C-B, and DMT.

Several available reports of 4-AcO-DMT compare it favorably to psilocybin, describing it as more euphoric, gentle, warm, and colorful. It has also been described as less jarring, and less likely to produce nausea. However, most of these comparisons are made with mushrooms, not pure psilocybin. In addition, it is unknown to what degree expectancy plays a role in shaping such experiences.

Positive

-Brightened colors / enhanced visual perception
-Introspection and philosophical insights
-Increased giggling and laughing
-Pleasant body buzz / warmth / tingling
-Rushing / stimulation (mental and physical)
-Deep feeling of inner peace / sense of rapture
-Feeling sleepy or dreamy
-Mood lift, euphoria
-Perception of cognitive enhancement
-Feelings of empathy
-Enhanced tactile sensation
-Sexual arousal

Neutral

-General change in consciousness (as with most psychoactives)
-Pupil dilation
-Minor to strong closed- and open-eyed visuals
-Auditory hallucinations/sound distortion
-Confusion and/or scrambled thoughts
-Distorted sense of time
-Lethargy, fatigue
-Ego softening/loss
-Disorientation
-Synesthesia
-Experiencing a dreamlike reality
-Decrease in emotions

Negative

(Likelihood of negative side effects increases with higher doses.)

-Anxiety / fear
-Difficulty speaking
-Motor impairment
-Stomach discomfort, nausea, vomiting, gas
-Intense or overwhelming visual disturbances
-Overwhelming thoughts and ideas
-Disturbing hallucinations/mental visions
-Paranoia / insecure feelings
-Sweating / chills / flushing
-(Severe) uncomfortable stimulation (mental and physical)
-Sleeplessness
-(Significantly) elevated heart rate
-Muscle fatigue/pain/aching
-(Severe) mental confusion

Onset

Effects take about 30-40 minutes to begin, with peak effects at around 2 hours. The onset has been characterized as smoother, gentler, and more pleasant than the onset of mushrooms.

Duration

The primary effects of 4-AcO-DMT typically last for about 4-6 hours. They have been described as lasting from 3-4 hours (low oral doses) to 8-10 hours (moderate to strong oral doses).

Risks

As with all psychedelics, some people may experience the effects of 4-AcO-DMT as confusing, frightening, or unpleasant. While 4-AcO-DMT is pharmacologically similar to psilocybin and may well be similar in terms of its relative safety, it has not undergone toxicological studies and its possible harms are unknown. Some users may have idiosyncratic responses to dosage and effects.

A review of available reports suggests that many people have begun with doses that generated stronger effects than expeceted or desired, in the 25-30 mg range. One report describes a person who took "25 mg oral and had a 2 hr blackout, in which he curled up in a bed and mumbled nonsense to himself. He had absolutely no recollection of the 2 hours."

Contraindications

Do not operate heavy machinery. Do not drive.

The effects of 4-AcO-DMT may be dramatically increased if used by individuals currently taking MAOIs. MAOI drugs include the prescription antidepressants Nardil (phenelzine), Parnate (tranylcypromine), Marplan (isocarboxazid), Eldepryl (l-deprenyl), and Aurorex or Manerix (moclobemide), as well as the harmala alkaloids present in Banisteriopsis caapi (ayahuasca) and Peganum harmala (Syrian rue). Check with your doctor if you are not sure whether your medication is an MAOI.

Individuals currently in the midst of emotional or psychological upheaval in their everyday lives should be careful about choosing to use psychedelics as they can trigger even more difficulty.

Individuals with a family history of schizophrenia or early onset mental illness should be extremely careful because psychedelics have been known to trigger latent psychological and mental problems.

Addiction Potential

Owing to its pharmacological similarity to psilocybin, it is very unlikely that 4-AcO-DMT is addictive. Howver, it has not been studied for addiction liability.

Substance info: MDPV

MDPV is a synthetic, cathinone-derivative, central nervous system stimulant going by the chemical name "methylenedioxypyrovalerone". It is usually administered via oral ingestion, nasal insufflation, smoking, intravenous or intramuscular methods and is taken to produce a cocaine- or methamphetamine-like high. It is also known as NRG-1, Cloud 9, MDPK, MTV, Magic, Maddie, Black Rob, Super Coke, PV and Peeve. MDPV is the primary ingredient in so-called "bath salts," labeled as such to avoid criminal prosecution and has only been classified recently as a controlled substance in the United States and some other countries. Incidents of psychological and physical harm have been attributed to MDPV use, including cardiac and neurological signs and symptoms.

Dose

A typical dose of MDPV ranges between 5–20 mg.

Law

MDPV is a controlled substance in the United States and some other countries, including United Kingdom, Australia, Canada and Sweden, making it illegal to possess, buy, sell and produce.

History

It was first developed in 1969 for the treatment of chronic fatigue and as an anorectic, but it got banned from clinical use because of its potential of abuse and dependence. It remained an obscure stimulant until around 2004 when it was reportedly sold as a designer drug.

Effects

MDPV possesses both amphetamine-like properties and the ability to modulate serotonin, causing distinct psychoactive effects. It can also be compared to cocaine; however, MDPV is much more potent and its effect is longer lasting.

Positive

-Euphoria
-Increased alertness and awareness
-Increased wakefulness and arousal
-Increased energy and motivation
-Mental stimulation/increased concentration
-Increased sociability
-Sexual stimulation/aphrodisiac effects
-Mild empathogenic effects
-Diminished perception of the requirement for food and sleep

Negative

-Cardiovasculatory problems and discomforts
-Insomnia
-Nausea/gastric discomfort
-Headaches
-Dizziness
-Overstimulation
-Breathing difficulty
-Agitation/hypertonia
-Severe paranoia
-Confusion
-Psychotic delusions
-Extreme anxiety/agitation, sometimes progressing to violent behavior
-Suicidal thoughts/actions

Overdosing

Overdoses are characterized by profound toxicities. Physical manifestations range from tachycardia, hypertension, arrhythmias, hyperthermia, sweating, rhabdomyolysis, and seizures to those as severe as stroke, cerebral edema, cardiorespiratory collapse, myocardial infarction, and death. Behavioral effects include panic attacks, anxiety, agitation, severe paranoia, hallucinations, psychosis, suicidal ideation, self-mutilation, and behavior that is aggressive, violent, and self-destructive.

Duration

The primary psychological effects have a duration of roughly 3 to 4 hours, with after effects lasting from 6 to 8 hours.

Risks

Psychiatric and physical symptoms may persist permanently after use. Physical symptoms may progress to rhabdomyolysis, renal failure, seizures, high anion gap metabolic acidosis, respiratory failure, or liver failure. Deaths associated with use of these compounds have also been reported. People with cardiovasculatory, liver or kidney problems shouldn't use this compound as it can aggravate their condition.

Since MDPV has a very short history of use, it has undergone virtually no human or animal toxicity studies. There is little to no data on possible long term problems, addiction potential, allergic reactions, or acute overdoses and it should be considered an experimental chemical.

Addiction potential

MDPV is an addictive substance and has been associated with compulsive use ("fiending"). It has been repeatedly noted for inducing strong cravings to re-administer and reports of users with compulsive desire to continuously re-dose are fairly common.

Substance info: 5-MeO-DiPT

5-MeO-DiPT is a pschoactive tryptamine,  publicized as a erotic enhancer. It was developed by Alexander Shulgin around 1980, and is now often known by its recently coined name "foxy" or "foxy methoxy". It was widely available on the research chemical market for several years prior to its scheduling in 2003. Reactions to 5-MeO-DIPT vary dramatically from those who find it compelling, sexy, exhilerating, interesting, & joyful to those who find it nauseating, irritating, diarrhea-inducing, and generally un-fun. It is available primarily in powder form--though it is also found in liquid and pressed tablets--and is almost always taken orally, though sometimes snorted.

Dose

A standard oral dose of 5-MeO-DiPT is between 5-30 mg.

Price

Rare but sometimes sold at events for 5-20 USD per dose. Prior to being placed in Schedule I, 5-MeO-DIPT was available from exotic chemical suppliers for 225-300 USD per gram. Around the same from underground sources. (August 2000)

Law

5-MeO-DiPT was placed into Schedule I through the emergency scheduling procedure on April 4, 2003. This makes it illegal to buy, sell, or possess without a DEA license. Germany is the only other country we are aware of where 5-MeO-DiPT is specifically listed as illegal.

Chemistry

N,N-diisopropyl-5-methoxy-tryptamine (5-MeO-DiPT) is a synthetic chemical tryptamine and thus is structurally related to other tryptamines (natural and synthetic), such as 5-MeO-DMT, N,N-DMT, psiloc(yb)in and serotonin.

History

The first publication of the synthesis and pharmacology of this compound was in 1980 by Alexander Shulgin in Communications in Psychopharmacology. It remained an extremely obscure chemical until the late 1990s when it started being produced commercially as a research chemical.

Effects

5-MeO-DiPT is often characterized by a strong feeling in the body, sometimes described as buzzing or energy, which some users enjoy and others hate. The effects sought by users include moderate mood lift, euphoria, a sense of well-being, intensification of tactile sensations, visual effects, physcial and mental stimulation, occasional auditory distortions/shifts, and for some users, a significant erotic component. Visual effects may include open and closed eye patterning, movement trails, and brightening or shifting of colors. We have received no reports of completely engrossing visions or hallucinations, or of powerful entheogenic voyages with 5-MeO-DiPT.  

5-MeO-DIPT can be quite stimulating and is known for causing sweating. It gained a reputation for being a sex-drug after an early report described a sensual experience and a lurid article described it in PlayBoy. It is also well known for causing diarrhea and gas, although not in all users.

Though the peak effects are not exceedingly long, the lingering stimulation that can last for up to 12 hours (or more) after the peak has given it a reputation for being quite long. The after effects often include tense muscles and can sometimes include feelings of anxiety or inability to relax.

Positive

-Euphoria, mood lift
-Increased tactile sensation
-Sensory enhancement (taste, smell, etc)
-Sexually interesting
-Emotionally opening

Neutral

-Feelings of body & muscle energy, buzzing
-Auditory distortions
-Visual distortions, open and closed-eye patterning, movement trails, shifting colors
-Physical and mental stimulation

Negative

-Possible stomach discomfort, gas & vomiting
-Possible minor jaw-clenching
-Diarrhea
-Anxious stimulation
-Muscle tension / discomfort
-Difficulty sleeping for 4-12 hours after peak in some people

Onset

Depending on how much and how recently the user has eaten, oral 5-MeO-DiPT takes between 20-60 minutes to take effect. With smoked or inhaled vapors, effects begin within a few minutes.

Duration

Due to the small number of reports and a wide variation in reported durations for this chemical, it is difficult to give reliable estimates of length of action. Some users have reported effects completely abating within 3-5 hours, with a short 1-2 hour peak, while others have reported strong residual stimulation and inability to sleep until 10-14 hours.

Risks

Many users report disliking 5-MeO-DiPT. The most common reported reasons are : nausea, diarrhea & frequent bowel movements, unsettling / anxious stimulation, muscle tension, long tail duration and restless sleep the night after use. In the few accidental overdose reports we've received involving between 30 and 100 mg, the subjects have reported merely stronger effects and increased time on the toilet.

Contraindications

5-MeO-DiPT and MAOIs are a potentially dangerous combination. It is likely that MAOIs could increase the effects of 5MeO-DIPT unpredictably. Taking this chemical while on prescription MAOIs is strongly discouraged. MAOIs are most commonly found in the prescription anti-depressants Nardil (phenelzine), Parnate (tranylcypromine), Marplan (isocarboxazid), Eldepryl (l-deprenyl), and Aurorex or Manerix (moclobemide). Ayahuasca also contains MAOIs (harmine and harmaline). Check with your doctor if you are not sure whether your prescription medication is an MAOI.

Do not operate heavy machinery. Do Not Drive.

Individuals currently in the midst of emotional or psychological upheaval in their everyday lives should be careful about choosing to use psychedelics such as 5-MeO-DiPT as they can trigger even more difficulty.

Individuals with a family history of schizophrenia or early onset mental illness should be extremely careful because psychedelics have been known to trigger latent psychological and mental problems.

Addiction Potential

Not enough data exists to make reliable statements about the addiction potential of 5-MeO-DiPT, however, tryptamines of this class are not known for their addictiveness or tendency for compulsive use. As with most substances, some people may use it more frequently than they or their friends are comfortable with, but we have received no reports of this. As with many psychedelics, there is a short period of tolerance after use. Using 5-MeO-DiPT two days in a row is likely to lead to a diminished experience the second day, though spaced 5-7 or more days apart, this effect is nearly non-existent.

Drug info: Good mixes, bad mixes

I felt the need to make a post about drug mixing out of concern for my reader's safety. Drug mixing can be a very interesting way to find new facets to one's favorite substances, enhance their initial good sides or soften their less desirable effects. That said, while some substances interact well together, some mixes can be a lot more unpleasant and difficult to handle. Here is some basic information to help you make wise choices and reduce the risks of having a bad experience.

First, keep in mind that 2 drugs of the same family (ex: stimulant + stimulant, downer + downer, etc.), consumed and acting in synergy within the body, will multiply both their good and bad effects. It is better to seek complementary substances (ex: stimulant + hallucinogen, downer + stimulant, etc.) that will produce a more pleasant and manageable high.

Second, pay attention to the dosage. When consuming 2 or more drugs together, doses much lighter than usual are needed to get the same level of intensity. Once again, drugs acting in synergy multiply their effects, so play it safe when measuring your dose! Remember you can always take more, but you can't take less.

Finally, here is a list of enjoyable and recommended combos, tried and true by me and some people that I find credible and whom I trust. As you'll be able to see, opinions may vary a lot on some combinaisons and I decided to include them all, as they can all offer valuable information. I have to say in those combinaisons I didn't bother to mention cannabis, since it goes well with everything. As a warning, I also included a list of bad combos with comments and feedbacks. Enjoy!

Good/interesting mixes

-LSD + MDMA.
-Hawaiian Baby Woodrose + MDMA.
-Mescaline + MDMA.
-Hawaiian Baby Woodrose + kratom.
-Peruvian torch + MDMA + a tad of ketamine.
-MDMA + ketamine.
-Speed + 2C-B.
-MDMA + half a speed + LSD + a tad of ketamine.
-Mushrooms + MDMA.
-MDMA + 2C-B.
-LSD + mushrooms
-Ketamine + LSD.
-Ketamine + 2C-B.
-2C-E + MDMA.
-BZP + LSD.
-BZP + MDMA + a bit of ketamine.
-Speed + 2C-I.
-AMT + DMT.
-LSD + 2C-I.
-Mescaline + LSD + mushrooms.
-MDMA + salvia.
-MDMA + methylone.
-4-Aco-DMT + MDMA.

Bad/uncomfortable mixes

-Speed + 2C-B, both at high doses. Mentally it was great, but physically I felt like I was a fuse about to blow up! This combinaison must be great at lower dosage though.
-LSD + ketamine. The OOBE's (out-of-body experiences) I got from this mix were pretty disturbing.
-Salvia + a high dose of MDMA. Too spaced-out, REALLY too much.
-LSD + a high dose of mushrooms. Emotional rollercoaster, painful for both user and surrounding.
-Yohimbe + Amphetamines. A trip to the hospital in the makings!

Ketamine trip report: Your eyes are open

Date: Sept. 30, 2012

Place: Montreal, Canada.

Setting: home alone at my apartment, small, calm and comfortable, with dubstep and drum'n'bass playing.

I woke up on this sunday around noon, feeling pretty grumpy and moody thinking of the events of the last days. I spent the week-end with my brother François at his place but it was quite unpleasant. The list of unfortunate events includes him fighting numerous times with his roommate Robert, then fighting with me for no reason out of frustration, dragging me to a bad party and getting punched in the face at said party.

On the good note, we also had quite our share of good laughs and ketamine. Before I left his place I bought some more, and it was now resting inside the crystal pyramid where I usually store my "unmentionables". I had a bit more than half a vial of the best stuff I came across in a long time. At first I decided to take half of what I had left, but out of the blue I told myself: "fuck it, let's do it all and see what a massive dose feels like", so I emptied the vial on the mirror and separated the whole thing in 3 big lines.

I snorted on them promptly, 1-2-3, then proceeded to get the drug pass my nostrils and go down my throat. I was sitting while snorting and, despites the support of the chair I was sitting on, keeping my balance became quite a challenge. When I decided to stand up, though, it was more than a challenge. I nearly fell off on my ass.

I bursted out laughing as I was doing rotative motions with my arms and hips to try to keep my balance . At first I was overwhelmed with the intensity of the onset so it was quite a difficult task, but I soon realized it was much easier to do when I focused on my movements. I then started to do yoga-like and trippy dance moves on the music that was playing, appreciating the feel of my muscles stretching under my skin and the sensual and relaxing feeling I had going through my whole body.

It soon became to intense for me to dance, so I decided to just sit on the floor. I was rolling over myself and stretching on the floor with my eyes closed, but weirdly I always knew where I was in the apartment, what I was facing, etc., and was correct every time after verification. I felt very grounded in some way, knowing where I was located on this planet, to the point where I had an intuitive knowledge of the geographical latitudes and longitudes of my exact location. It felt strange but also quite comforting.

I managed to get to the bed to let go and appreciate the trippiness of both the music and the drug, rolling over and stretching again while giggling and sighing loudly. After a while, I stopped moving and rested on my stomach while hugging a pillow. I had the strangest feeling, after being still for a moment, that I was "seeing through my eyelids"! I debated if it was possible for a bit, then decided to memorize what I thought I was seeing as much as I could before opening my eyes. Believe it or not, it was real. I was absolutely stunned to realize the only difference between eyes open and eyes closed, was that colors were more vivid and edges of objets were better defined with my eyes open.

I rolled a bit and danced some more, but the trip was almost over then so I took it easy. I had a long, hot shower that seemed to clean both my body and soul, before dressing up in a sexy black nightgown and chinese-style silk bathrobe and ordering some tasty sushis (I felt worn out at that point so I didn't feel like cooking at all.). My man came back home a bit later that night so I spent the rest of my evening relaxing with him, giving each other backrubs and sharing memories.

It was a very enjoyable trip, a good way to end a bad week-end. Even though having such a wooping dose at once can be pretty overwhelming, it was pleasant and I definetely won't hold back anybody who wants to do the same.

Substance Info: DOB

DOB is a phenethylamine going by the chemical name 2,5-dimethoxy-4-bromoamphetamine. It has a character similar to 2C-B (also described sometimes as similar to LSD) and is best known for its very low doses and long duration. It is fairly uncommon, most of the time found in blotter, liquid, or powder form, and generally injested orally. Effects usually reported include pronounced and very vivid visuals, mental clarity and reduction of emotions.

Dosage

Doses may vary a lot from person to person, as this compound is fairly dosage-sensitive. Light doses are reported to vary between 0.2-0.75 mg, medium doses between 0.75-1.75 mg, strong doses between 1.75-2.5 mg and heavy doses between 2.5-3.5 mg. It is not recommended to take more than 3.5 mg, as overdoses have been reported with dosages higher than this.

Effects

As the effects of DOB first come on, the user feels a rush of energy which can be exhilerating or uncomfortable, depending on the person and the dose. A small majority of people report slightly less stomach discomfort than with 2C-B, although, as with all substances, each person reacts differently and there are also reports of higher discomfort than with 2C-B. Some people also report a greater ability to both eat and sleep with DOB than with LSD.

As DOB settles in, it has a long plateau (3-10 hours, depending on person and dose). Higher doses extend the length in addition to increasing the effects. .Some people boost their DOB experience with a small supplement between T+3 and T+6 hours. The booster usually kicks in a bit faster than the original dose (45 minutes).

Light doses of DOB last from 6-12 hours, medium doses of DOB last from 8-16 hours, while heavy doses of DOB can last more than 24 hours. As with many other entheogens, its often best to avoid eating for at least 2 hours (4 is better) beforehand and don't eat until after the peak.


Light Effects: (plateau between 3 and 6 hours)

An increase in energy, feeling of mental clarity, opening of mental space, less confusing than low doses of LSD, very light visual activity, visual patterns superimposed on vision, enhanced texture perception, shift in colors. Some people find it possible to sleep on low doses of DOB, though probably not at the peak.

Body load usually manageable. Nervousness, edginess, some body discomfort, stomach tension, yawning.

Medium Effects: (plateau between 4 and 8 hours)

Increased duration, energizing, pronounced visual effects, marked clarity and reduction of emotions. Some people suggest this might be a good therapeutic tool in cases where excessive emotion might be a problem.

Fairly high body load. Muscle and jaw tension, tension headache, eye discomfort, achy back spasms, nausea, general body discomfort.

Strong Effects: (plateau between 6 and 12 hours)

Long duration, visual brightening, able to connect with ideas, heart-opening happiness.

Overdose: (3.5 + mg)

Reports of moderate overdoses appear to often be the result of individuals deciding an hour after their original dose that because they aren't feeling anything they didnt take enough. Be Careful! DOB can take up to 3 hours to onset for some individuals.

The overdose experience seems to be one of memory loss, irrational and sometimes violent behavior, and the possibility of causing harm to oneself (not noticing pain?).

Risks

DOB can be quite harmful at high doses. Significant overdoses can cause serious vasso-constriction of the extremeties...possibly resulting in nerve damange and/or gangrene. There are unconfirmed reports of two people who accidentally ingested 75 mg (over 30x the regular dosage) and needed to have their legs amputated because their circulation had shut off and caused gangrene in their legs.


The use of DOB can be a problem for those with circulatory problems, heart ailments, glaucoma, hypertension, hepatic or renal disease, aneurism, or stroke history.

DOB can be dangerous if mixed improperly with other drugs especially MAOI's or other liver-enzyme affecting chemicals. Mixing with stimulants is not recommended.